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[sundevil]

Bättre presstanda

Lite som o trimma bilen , lr rätt mycket som o trimma bilen tom

[_marauder]

[[gobbe]karlos]

Kan du försöka förklara hur det där med 'Dual-Channel' funkar (RAM) Erik?
Måste man ha två minnesmoduler eller är det något man skapar virtuellt?
Läst runt lite, men jag greppar det inte riktigt. Sen om man har ett 512-minne, ska man ha det i channel2 (den längst från processorn, gör det nån skillnad?).

[CrazySailor]

[[gobbe]karlos]

Aha! Thx Seglarn!

[[siLL]Urethra]

Nja... egentligen är det lite mer komplext än så.

Poängen bakom Dual Channel RAM, som tex finns på nForce2-kort är att man typ RAIDar två RAM-minnen så att man får dubbla bandbredden mot processorn, dvs processorn och minnena skyfflar trafik mellan sig i dubbla hastigheten. Dessvärre funkar det inte i praktiken på AMD Athlon XP-processorer. Däremot lär det funka fint på Athlon64 FX och på Intel.

Vägen från minnena till processorn är nämligen en resa med två etapper: först mellan minnena och Nordbryggan, sen från Nordbryggan till CPUn. På en Athlon XP (vilket Karlos och jag själv har) funkar det alltså så att tillverkaren har effektivt dubblat bandbredden mellan minnena och Nordbryggan, men INTE mellan Nordbryggan och CPUn. Fiffigt va?

Dubbla 400DDR MHz-minnen tex ger alltså en väldigt minimal prestandaförbättring än ett enkelt minne, när vi snackar Athlon XP. En annan fråga som har dykt upp är om man kan maxa två sämre minnen tillsammans, dvs att man kör en CPU med 400DDR FSB och sedan tar två minnen som man kör i 333DDR. Var för sig går man miste om viss prestanda eftersom minnena inte langar upp info så snabbt som CPUn klarar av att ta emot, kan man då köra minnena dubbelt för att fylla upp det sista, så att man kommer upp i effektivt 400DDR? Svaret blir även där vad jag förstår nej. Det vill säga, man får en prestandaförbättring av att köra 2 minnen framför 1 minne, men man "fyller" inte hela vägen upp till 400DDR mot CPUn. Problemet är tydligen att Athlon är allergisk mot att köra minnena asynkront mot CPUn, dvs med olika FSB.

Jag har skrivit ungefär samma sak här och bifogat lite länkar till olika tester: http://www.swm.se/viewtopic.php?p=2081493#2081493

[Fenan]

För att svara på den andra frågan Kalle, så spelar det egentligen ingen roll i vilken port du sätter minnet om du bara har en minnesmodul. Det skall funka lika bra om du sätter den i port 0, 4, 18 eller 77. Dock verkar det smartast att börja fylla på minnen från port 0 (första porten).

[_marauder]

Bra sammanfattning av Urethra, täcker in allt man behöver veta om dual ddr

Liten detalj om A64 dock. Det är bara A64 FX-51 (snordyr Socket 940) som kör dual ddr, och bara med registrerat minne. Registrerat minne är minne med inbyggd felkontroll, vilket används i många servrar. Det är dock dyrare och långsammare än vanligt DDR vilket gör det opraktiskt för desktop-maskiner där inte någon dör om ett minne på 1000 räknar fel nångång vartannat år. De vanliga A64:orna (Socket 754) kör enbart single channel med vanligt obuffrat DDR.

AMD kommer under året gå över till Socket 939 för samtliga A64:or, och kommer i samma veva introducera vanligt DDR för den socketen. Det innebär att om man köper en A64 efter sommaren så är det dual channel och vanligt minne. Idag får man välja (vilket inte är så svårt med tanke på att FX-51:an kostar typ 8k för bara cpu).

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