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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 20:42 pm    Post subject: Har nån sett min CD-brännare? Reply with quote

Hejje.

Märker till min bestörtning att min dator inte hittar min CD-brännare när jag har startat Windows. Så här ligger det till:

Jag har två Windowsinstallationer, en äldre med SP1 och en nyare ren ominstallation som jag har patchat upp till SP2. Av någon anledning så hittar inte min nya Windowsinstallation min CD-brännare. När jag tittar i Enhetshanteraren så saknas CD-brännaren, och följdaktligen kan jag heller inte avinstallera den där (vilket har föreslagits i vissa topics på andra sidor). Att scanna efter ny maskinvara ger inget resultat. Den finns bara inte helt enkelt. När jag startar upp den äldre Windowsinstallationen (den som bara har SP1 installerat) så funkar brännaren utan problem och både skriver och läser för glatta livet. För övrigt har jag Nero installerat, uppdaterad med SP2-patchen.

Jag har snokat runt på google men hittar inga intressanta artiklar, men så kanske jag bara har idétorka när jag skriver in sökord. Eller nåt.

För er som eventuellt snokar lite: Jag har inga upper och lower filter. Jag brukar använda Daemon Tools med upp till 3 drives utan problem. Jag har testat nån slags neros registry fixer, men den verkar inte göra nånting, och den hjälper heller inte.

Tips, idéer, förslag?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 21:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tittat på microsoft.com? De kanske har någon patch för det... *slänger ut en brainstorm*
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 21:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mjo.. det enda jag hittar där är att de tipsar om att pilla på ett par ställen i registret. Men felbilden stämmer inte riktigt med mitt problem där. Deras förslag bygger på att man ser CD-RWn i Enhetshanteraren... men för mig finns den inte där heller.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 21:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Testat drivrutiner? Kanske är fel på dem...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 16:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jag har haft samma sak. det va dock att sladdarna inte satt i Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 19:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Låter grymt märkligt.. det enda jag kan komma på är om XP SP2 av någon anledning tagit bort stödet för CD-brännaren för att den är gammal eller dylikt.

Vad är det för brännare?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Philips CDRW1600... Lycka till med att hitta drivare till den... Sad
Köpt för et eller två år sedan.

Grymt märkligt är det. Men jag är inte ensam om det. Verkar dock inte finnas så bra lösningar på det. Exempel på trådar jag har kollat i nedanför. Verkar dock finnas två typer av fel som folk blandar ihop i dessa trådar: vissa ser CDn i enhetshanteraren men inte i Utforskaren. Dessa kan oftast lösa sina problem. Sen är det "vi" som inte hittar CDn ens i Enhetshanteraren.

(Ganska långa trådar)
http://www.siliconguide.com/qa/forum/messages/88.shtml
http://www.siliconguide.com/qa/forum/messages/71-2.shtml

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 17:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Testa med att läsa igenom dom här 2 support dokumenten:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;320553

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314096

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 13:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Båda dokumenten bygger på att man hittar CDn i Enhetshanteraren. Vilket jag inte gör. Följdaktligen kan de där två dokumenten inte hjälpa mig

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After you install Microsoft Windows XP, the CD-ROM drive, the DVD-ROM drive, or CD-ROM R/W drive may not be visible in the My Computer window. Additionally, there may be question marks on the devices that are listed under CD-ROM drives in Device Manager.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 20:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Problemet:
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Reccently I discovered that my CD Drive has vanished from my computer. When I go to "My Computer" The drive is not there, it's not in the device manager, and running the "Add Hardware Wizard" doesn't work.

I'm running Windows XP Professional, and I made sure that it is not the CD-Rom Drive that has the problem (I tried it on another computer and it works fine).

In the BIOS the Secondary slot is set to auto, and detects it as CD-Rom Reader or something like that.

Any ideas


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Accepted Answer from Dynamic1
Date: 08/08/2004 12:38PM PDT
Grade: B
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Have you tried a different IDE cable also are the jumpers set correctly. Also update the Chipset drivers for your motherboard. Auto detect should work fine cd rom reader from bios is ok. Have you used any drivers from windows update sometimes they dont work correctly. Let me know how you make out.




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Date: 08/08/2004 01:33PM PDT
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Dynamic1, your mention about XP drivers made me think. I recently installed an intel application that changes some XP default ATA drivers or something. I uninstalled that and it fixed my problem.

Thanks to all who helped!


Tydligen avinstallerade han något program som trixade med ATA-drivisarna eller liknande. Hans lösning var att avinstallera drivrutinerna.

Detta kan vara lite svårt så kanske jaga rätt på moderkortetdrivrutinerna och installera de igen. Annars kan du testa att installera XP och SP2 utan att ha CD-brännaren inkopplad. Sen när allt är klart så kan du testa att koppla in den och se om XP hittar den då istället.



Följande var en sista kommentar till tråden. Jag vet inte om den har någon betydelse men det skadar ju inte att ha med den. Smile

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Date: 08/08/2004 01:52PM PDT
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HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E965-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
delete the upper and lower filter keys in the right side panel for all the entries for the above mentioned key.
uninstall or remove all the cd/dvd writing softwares and restart the computer.
they shuld show up fine in the my computer panel and shuld work fine too




Click Start, Run, type Regedit into the Open field, and then click OK.
For system safety, make a backup of the registry:
Click the small plus sign (+) next to each of the following folders, in order:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
SYSTEM
Select
Double-click the Default key and note the Value Data number. This Default Value data is used in the next step.
Click the small plus sign (+) next to each of the following folders, in order:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
SYSTEM
ControlSet001 (if the Default Value data was 1)
or
ControlSet002 (if the Default Value data was 2)
Control
Class
{4D36E965-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
Right-click LowerFilters from the right side of the window and click Delete.
Right-click UpperFilters from the right side of the window and click Delete.
Exit Registry Editor and restart the computer. If full CD writing functionality has not been restored, it may be necessary to remove the CD writing software and install again .

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 23:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tänkte testa att installera ett tredje Windows och se vad som händer. (Eller snarare installera om mitt tredje windows.)

Det där med upper och lower filters har jag redan provat. Skrev det i första posten Razz

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[GTI]Sallow wrote:
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Date: 08/08/2004 01:33PM PDT
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Dynamic1, your mention about XP drivers made me think. I recently installed an intel application that changes some XP default ATA drivers or something. I uninstalled that and it fixed my problem.

Thanks to all who helped!


Tydligen avinstallerade han något program som trixade med ATA-drivisarna eller liknande. Hans lösning var att avinstallera drivrutinerna.

Där satt den. När jag installerade om och hade mig senast så installerade jag nVidias nForce 5.10 Unified driver till moderkortet. Innehåller drivisar för ljud, nätverkskort, SATA och bland annat nånting som pillar med ATA-drivrutinerna.

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Drivrutinsinformation för NVIDIA IDE SW
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NVIDIA IDE SW-drivrutinen ersätter ATA-drivrutinerna (som medföljer Windows) med drivrutiner som är optimerade för nForce2/nForce3-baserade bordsdatorer.

NVIDIA IDE SW-drivrutinen minskar hindren i undersystemet för lagring, vilket gör det möjligt för processorn och annan maskinvara på systemnivå att bli mer produktiva och effektiva.

I de flesta fall är inte NVIDIA IDE SW-drivrutinen ett krav för att operativsystemet ska fungera ordentligt.

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OBS! NVIDIA IDE SW-drivrutinen tillhandahålls "i befintligt skick" till slutanvändaren.

NVIDIA IDE SW-drivrutinen kan omfatta utformningsdefekter eller fel som kallas tryckfel, vilket kan få produkten att avvika från publicerade specifikationer. Aktuella karaktäriserade tryckfel kan fås vid förfrågan, beroende på produkt.

NVIDIA kan göra ändringar i specifikationer, produktbeskrivningar och planer när som helst och utan föregående meddelande. Vid utredning av fel avgör NVIDIA orsaken. När så överenskommits med aktuell återförsäljare kommer NVIDIA försöka att arbeta tillsammans med återförsäljarna för att lösa kompatibilitetsproblem.

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Nu har jag dock på nåt sätt lyckats knasa sönder den Win-installation som hade SP2. Hmm.. det verkar som om alla .exe-filer har försvunnit från D:\ ... nåväl...

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 17:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[siLL]Urethra wrote:
Båda dokumenten bygger på att man hittar CDn i Enhetshanteraren. Vilket jag inte gör. Följdaktligen kan de där två dokumenten inte hjälpa mig

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After you install Microsoft Windows XP, the CD-ROM drive, the DVD-ROM drive, or CD-ROM R/W drive may not be visible in the My Computer window. Additionally, there [colorred]may[/color] be question marks on the devices that are listed under CD-ROM drives in Device Manager.


du har tolkat texten ovan lite fel... läs noggrannare t.ex

Additionally, there may be = Dessutom, det KAN det finnas

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 20:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nej men hörru.. ta och ge dig kompis. Det är en väldig skillnad på Den här datorn/Utforskaren/My computer och Enhetshanteraren/Device manager.

Det stämmer som du har rödmarkerat att jag inte ser enheten i "the My computer window". Vidare: Additionally, there may be question marks on the devices that are listed under CD-ROM drives in Device Manager. Kruxet som jag har repeterat ett par gånger är att enheten helt och hållet försvinner även från Enhetshanteraren... *borta* *puff* *försvunnen* Jag har inte ens något avsnitt för CD-enheter alls. Än mindre några frågetecken. Jag hade varit lycklig om jag hade ett frågetecken på CD-enheten... Spik i foten? pffft

Fixen som finns på MSs hemsida funkar säkert bra... till helt andra problem. Till mitt problem hjälpte det inte.

Jag har rätt, du har fel Razz Sak samma, problemet är funnet.

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dålig kabel?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kabel? Öh nej. För det första skulle CD-enheten inte fungera klockrent i andra windows då. För det andra så skrev jag fyra inlägg upp att problemet låg i drivrutinerna som nVidia själva släppt till sina egna komponenter. Ok, jag skrev det inte övertydligt kanske... men det jag menade var att det var nForce-drivisarnas fel.
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