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santos_deluxe
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oger, du är för mycket.. ville bara ha det sagt...

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Jag har varit i sthlm på möten och legat med ryggskott sedan i måndags. Varför jag kände/känner att jag ville lägga ner maffia beror mycket på att alla mina pals har pitchat här ifrån. Så länge mina "pals" var här så hade jag likasinniga, i min värld är det viktigt att ha likasinniga som vänner. Jag skulle aldrig kunna umgås med hycklare privat. Det andra som utlöste detta var att, deluxe skrev samma sak som 10-20 andra, men när deluxe skrev det blev det upplopp. Detta hade inte hänt om magnus och några till hade svarat samma sak innan. Nu är dom borta och nu kan man bränna.

Känner man mig så vet man att jag inte är den som backar för något, har aldrig gjort kommer aldrig att göra. Men att försöka förklara att invandrare är lika mycket värda för 10 national demokrater är bara bortkastad tid. (Nu gemnför jag inte er med ND) men ni förstår vad jag menar. Det är en strid som inte går att vinna. Där emot kan man ta en disskution med en ND-snubbe.

Rickard: Jag är precis som du van att få mothugg och kliva in i vilda disskutioner. Det är där jag mår bäst. Läs ovan..

KRÖZ: JAG HETER INTE FRITZ! Fritzelius ffs!

Lathund: Vad är det jag inte har svarat på? Jag skrev min åsikt, att jag tycker om porr och jag tycker porr är bra.

Jag tycker slagsmål med knytnävar är bra i vissa tillfällen. Vill den andra slåss, vill jag slåss, låt oss slåss. Så länge man inte tar till knivar, pistoler tillhyggen etc.

Tänk er så här. 20 av mina är snea på 20 av dina. Du och jag boxas lite och dispyten kan kanske läggas åt sidan när en ligger på marken. Istället för att 10 av mina ska sitta med planer för att spränga ditt hus.

Bush vs Bin Laden one on one, istället för att 100.000 oskyldiga ska dö av vapen.

Starkast/Snabbast/Street-Smartast vinner.

Jag har varit i lite slagsmål och många av dom jag har slagist mot har jag blivit ytliga vänner med. Dom vet var gränsen går, jag vet var gränsen går. Man behöver inte vara dum för att slåss som tidey sa. Visst finns det människor som är dumma i huvet som bara går och slår på människor. Men det är inte sånna slagsmål jag är ute efter....
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 14:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back! Your return, thought not unexpected, happened quicker than I had thought it would. Probably good you didnt make that "goodbye" thread. I think we've got a whole archive of those around here Smile

Might surprise you, but I think your difficulty to debate in a expansive manner without having temper tantrums probably stems from only having friends who share your opinions. Might want to widen your circle a bit Smile

And, for what its worth, there is a serious difference between running from something, and being able to accept that other people disagree with you. You dont HAVE to change everyones minds, and saying "oh crap, you have a point there" doesnt make you a weakling. Thought it would appear that this has been giving you trouble here as you dont feel that you have people to "back you up". Im sure you've been getting lots of people supporting you throught private messages though?

The fact that people react strongly to your opinions probably has less to do with what they are than the way you present them. In a text based forum its important to take into account that people might not take what youre saying the right way. Here's an example:

Wrong way: You're such a total jackass!

Right way: I don't believe you always think before you act, or before you say things that might hurt peoples feelings.

Magnus is better at getting his point across in a text medium without coming off as a troll than you are, its as simple as that. When people disagree with him, they say so. But he doesnt up and leave when that happens. Adds a bit of credibility.

So you stated your opinion in one sentance. That gives people absolutly no reason to agree or disagree, or even any idea why you have that opinion. Let me take another example, which might make things clearer.

"Do you like meat?" Answer "Yes. Meat is good."
Well now that says nothing about living conditions of animals, genetically modified food issues, or nutritional value whatsoever. A question where people only answer yes or no isnt a debate, its a poll.

If you like hitting people so much, take up boxing as a hobby, or martial arts. Do something that requires more skill than getting pissed off and being unable to express it. Though getting hit in the head damages braincells, and Id definately try to avoid more of that. If you're full of so much extra aggression that you can't get it out, Id speak to a therapist, and stay away from alcohol and other stimulants. You might have a hormone imbalance.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 22:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tideypoo wrote:

If you like hitting people so much, take up boxing as a hobby, or martial arts. Do something that requires more skill than getting pissed off and being unable to express it. Though getting hit in the head damages braincells, and Id definately try to avoid more of that. If you're full of so much extra aggression that you can't get it out, Id speak to a therapist, and stay away from alcohol and other stimulants. You might have a hormone imbalance.


Tidey


det är ok att inte hålla med varandra men jag anser att vissa saker som deluxe skrivit och det du skrivit ovan inte är speciellt trevligt, jag skriver sällan här men var tvungen att säga något när jag läser detta.
Ni är två av de äldre här på forumet och borde därför föregå med gott exempel och att som tidey attackera någons intelligens eller psykiska välmående är faktiskt riktigt lågt.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 23:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your opinion, and you're welcome to it, thought I probably should have added more smiles or whatever, as reading it now it sounds worse than I ment it.

I really DO think that people who enjoy violence have serious problems of the brain kind. And I think people who have those problems need to seek help for them, rather than inflict it on the rest of us (us being taxpayers and innocent bystanders). I dont like seeing people get clubbed in the subway by crazies with iron pipes, and I dont like when violent little jerks wreck the derby hockey games for the rest of us, or right wing vs left wing riots that wind up with people throwing paving stones. Just because you can chum around with the people you beat the crap out of for kicks doesnt make it acceptable. I have no respect for those people at all, because they make a concious choice that negativly affects people who dont want to be involved. This type of thing CAN be caused by hormone imbalance, and its important to go and get it checked out if it is something you might have. It can lead to all kinds of other problems.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 0:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grejen med knytnävsslagsmål är väl att det är troligen 1 på miljonen då båda parter verkligen vill slåss, det ligger ofta något annat bakom. Polare eller vad det nu kan vara.

Jag tycker om porr men det betyder inte att jag tycker att porr är bra.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kitano wrote:
Grejen med knytnävsslagsmål är väl att det är troligen 1 på miljonen då båda parter verkligen vill slåss, det ligger ofta något annat bakom. Polare eller vad det nu kan vara.
Hängde verkligen inte med där Question
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 16:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kom o tänka på det innan, många säger "usch o fy porr fy vad vidrigt !" och om man gillar porr "a okej så du räknar med att spruta bruden i ansiktet bla bla bla.." många ser bara negativt på porr, MEN, jag har märkt att jag har lärt mig mycke genom att titta på porr ! men jag oxå haft turen att träffa tjejer som vågar testa saker.. Smile

jag är för porr, för det finns bra porr, och det kan till viss del va lärorikt och det kan höja kvaliten på ens eget sexliv med Smile

tjoo !
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 19:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

word zwonka... finns ju olika slags porr..... min brud ville kolal lite på porr=) hon tyckte inte de va så himla bra =P hehe men men de e olika ja tror som zwonka att de e lärorikt...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 22:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jag säger bara DUDE!

Jag har klart och tydligt sagt att slagsmål är en sak och tagit avstånd från järnrör, knivar och pistoler...

Skulle vi fråga mister coppen så skulle han säkert kunna gå god för att komma till ett slagsmål är bättre 'n att komma till err knivslagsmål. Dom jag har varit med om hjälper den som sänkte den andra upp. Man sparkar aldrig någon som ligger ner... aldrig, verbalt eller fysiskt.

Jag och min tjej kollar porr tillsammans, för oss är porr bra. Vi gillar porr, vi gillar könsorgan och utväxter, t.ex bröst, rumpor och lemmar. PINK PINK PINK!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[gobbe]deluxe wrote:


Jag har klart och tydligt sagt att slagsmål är en sak och tagit avstånd från järnrör, knivar och pistoler...

Skulle vi fråga mister coppen så skulle han säkert kunna gå god för att komma till ett slagsmål är bättre 'n att komma till err knivslagsmål. Dom jag har varit med om hjälper den som sänkte den andra upp. Man sparkar aldrig någon som ligger ner... aldrig, verbalt eller fysiskt.



So its acceptable for people to have a fistfight provided that those fighting are OK with it? What locations do you consider acceptable for this type of behavior? Hockey games? streets? the local torg? your own home?

If you only do this stuff in your house, then go right ahead (tho if your neighbors hear about it you'll probably still catch hell, and frankly I dont think committing acts of violence in front of your child is a good idea, even if the person you're beating on is ok with it). If you're doing it in a public area you're creating a nuisance and endagering others. Im not EXACTLY sure how that is here, but Im sure its against some kind of law. Public order or whatever. To me, people who riot in public are the same types of morons who do graffiti, break windows at bus stops, and then bitch and moan about how much their insurance/bus cards cost.

You know what? I dont think the police would cry and feel sad if they never had to go break up another fight. I think, in fact, that most of them would go "finally, they started acting like humans" and turn their attention and energy towards the things that they didnt get done while they were out trying to keep the hooligans in line. Im also pretty sure they dont think "what a swell bunch of guys! honorable. My kind of people!" when they notice you dont kick your oponent who is now lying on the street with whatever injuries you've managed to inflict before he finally copped it and hit the pavement.

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