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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 18:29 pm    Post subject: det här med ms Reply with quote

Fick bredband för ett par dagar sedan och har lirat en del. Dock tycker jag det känns lite smålaggigt även om pingen inte är dålig. Har sett att "ms" hoppar mellan 10-30, men ska det inte ligga runt 0 för att det ska flyta bra?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 18:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vad har du i rates ?
Vad har du för fps ?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 18:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rate ligger på 25000 och cl_rate på 9999.
FPS:en ligger på 99-100.

Känns lite jobbigt när man kör, som att det är extra svårt att träffa folk Confused



Föresten, någon som vet varför man får dessa roliga meddelanden plötsligt:
"You have been disconnected from the server.
Reason: This Steam account does not own this game.
Please login to the correct Steam account."

Kan tillägga att min cdkey är typ 5år gammal och steam-kontot är typ sen steam kom.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 19:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vad gäller det här med "ms" (antar att du syftar på det som står i net_graph 3... så indikerar det tillfälliga fördröjningar (lag) som oftast beror på trafiken mellan dig och servern. Antagligen kan du komma till rätta med det här genom att justera updaterate och cmdrate litegrann tills du hittar ett läge där spelet flyter på bra.
Alla som säger att 101 på både cmdrate och updaterate är det enda som gäller vet inte vad de pratar om, inställningarna är unika för just dig, din uppfattning av hur spelet flyter bäst, all hårdvara mellan dig och servern du spelar mot osv osv osv. Generellt sett kanske högre är bättre, men har du som jag ett par kluriga routrar är inte 101/101 optimalt.
http://scripting.elxdraco.net/calc.html <-- den där hävdar en del är jättebra, men det är som sagt... bara generellt.

Enkelt sagt, "ms" är tiden i millisekunder ditt spel är fördröjt (beräknad) från verkligheten... så verkligt ett datorspel nu kan vara alltså Wink

Det andra lär antagligen bero på att någonting kommer bort på vägen mellan dig och servern vilket gör att du blir droppad för att steam inte får info om att du äger spelet.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 19:17 pm    Post subject: Re: det här med ms Reply with quote

Ultima wrote:
Fick bredband för ett par dagar sedan och har lirat en del. Dock tycker jag det känns lite smålaggigt även om pingen inte är dålig. Har sett att "ms" hoppar mellan 10-30, men ska det inte ligga runt 0 för att det ska flyta bra?


Doh, tryckte på edit istället för quote...

I cs1.5 skulle ms:en ligga på noll, då hade man troligen "rätt" inställningar.

I cs1.6 ändrade de det. Ms:en visar numera din ping. Så det är normalt att den ändrar sig lite. Dock tycker jag att skillnaden bör vara mindre. 10-30 är lite för stor skillnad. Har du runt 15-20 i ping bör ms:en hoppa mellan 15-20.

Lite sent nu kanske Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 19:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ultima wrote:

Föresten, någon som vet varför man får dessa roliga meddelanden plötsligt:
"You have been disconnected from the server.
Reason: This Steam account does not own this game.
Please login to the correct Steam account."

Kan tillägga att min cdkey är typ 5år gammal och steam-kontot är typ sen steam kom.


Verkar vara steam eller valve eller vilka det är som har problem.
Läste precis på irc att fler har samma problem och får fram samma anledningstext när de kickas från servern.

Så det är förmodligen bara något temporärt.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 20:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

har pillat en del med inställningarna, rekommenderades rate=20000, cl_cmdrate=101 och cl_updaterate=101. Det sänkte den lite iaf. Testade att dra ner updaterate och då sänks ms:en.

Ska man sträva efter så låt som möjligt eller?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 20:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Klart man vill ha låg ping!

Men du får som sagt testa dig fram lite. Känner du att det flyter på bra med cl_updaterate 101 - cl_cmdrate 101 - rate 20000/25000 t ex. och din ping är jämn och fin, alltså att den hoppar mellan små marginaler som t ex 15-18.

sänker man cmdrate och updaterate så sänks pingen enligt ms och scoreboarden. men du kommer ju inte att träffa vidare bra... detta har jag själv testat då jag hade comhem...

alltså, ms:en ska vara lika hög som latencyn visar i scoreboarden.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 21:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaha, men då känns 101 som ett passande värde.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 20:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kom ihåg, det är inte fördröjning (lagg) som får dig att missa, det är variationer i fördröjningar (jitter). Har man 50 ms fördröjning hela tiden, så kompenserar hjärnan automagiskt detta, men varierar fördröjningen mellan säg 20-50 ms, då börjar det gå dåligt.
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